This episode features Hilary Dubin and Caroline Vasquez Huber, co-founders of Jones, discussing their journey to rebrand common goods for modern consumers, specifically focusing on nicotine replacement therapy (NRT). They share how personal pain points, particularly Hilary's experience with vaping, led to identifying a market need for aesthetically pleasing and destigmatized solutions. The conversation delves into leveraging consumer psychology and product development expertise to transform utilitarian products into desirable lifestyle goods that resonate with today's consumers.
Hilary Dubin is co-CEO and head of Jones’ digital product & behavioral support program. She graduated from the University of Pennsylvania magna cum laude, majoring in cognitive science with a concentration in computation and cognition, an honors thesis on the effects of gender, realism, and role of virtual agents, and a minor from Wharton in consumer psychology. She worked in David Brainard’s visual neuroscience lab for 3 years and published 4 papers and supplementary materials on illumination discrimination (color perception). After Penn, she was selected as one of ten Americans to be a Ventures Fellow in the Excel Ventures incubator program in Tel Aviv, and continued on to be the inaugural member, and later program lead, of the US Associate Product Manager Program at Atlassian. She worked as a product manager at Atlassian for 5 years, ultimately as Head of Confluence Editions & Admin Experience where she launched Confluence Premium & Free into multi-million dollar product offerings with 2M+ users. She hired & managed two PMs and lead a team of over 30 developers. Prior to founding Jones, she and Caroline founded Cozier together, a sleep & loungewear brand designing ethical, effortlessly chic garments for every/body. Hilary started vaping casually in 2017 when the JUUL seemed relatively harmless and fun. When the world went on lockdown in 2020, her casual vaping habit became a daily crutch for coping with stress and working from home. After over a year of unsuccessful cold-turkey quit attempts, she finally kicked her vaping habit in 2022 when Caroline suggested she try NRT. Outside of work, Hilary loves hiking, backcountry skiing, trying to find the best burger in NYC, and playing with other people’s dogs. In This Conversation We Discuss: [00:00] Intro [02:34] Creating products from personal pain points [06:52] Sponsor: Klaviyo [08:59] Meeting potentia