
Bobbie, the infant formula brand, achieved 91% conversation share with only 4% market share by reframing infant formula as a cultural instead of just a product problem. This episode details how they built a trusted brand in a guilt-ridden category, emphasizing authentic brand-building over outdated Meta-centric growth tactics. Founders in regulated, trust-sensitive categories will learn how to drive conversion by making brand an integral part of performance.
Subscribe to DTC Newsletter - https://dtcnews.link/signupKim Chappell is Chief Brand Officer at Bobbie, the mom-founded infant formula brand that’s crossed $100M in revenue and is trying to change how formula gets talked about in America. In this episode, she breaks down how Bobbie built a brand parents are proud to buy in a category that used to be driven by guilt, and why trust beats sheer creative volume when the old Meta scale-button playbook stops working. For DTC founders, CMOs, and performance marketers scaling a trust-heavy product in a crowded category.Inside the episode:Why Bobbie treated infant formula as a culture problem, not just a product problem How the team thinks about brand vs performance now that the old Meta-only growth playbook has weakened What “learn more” looks like when your customer journey is messy, delayed, and omnichannel How Bobbie chooses the few advocacy lanes it can credibly own, then actually follows through Why the Cardi B partnership worked, and how it turned celebrity into conversation share, trust, and policy momentum Who this is for: Operators building in regulated, trust-sensitive, or education-heavy categories where brand has to do real work before performance can convert.What to steal:Put performance, organic, creator, and lifecycle under one brand story Treat education as part of conversion, not a nice-to-have Pick fewer cultural or political lanes, but show up with receipts when you enter them Timestamps00:00 Performance marketing has changed03:00 Building Bobbie from scratch06:00 Removing the stigma around formula08:00 Why Bobbie understood the customer10:00 Transparency as brand strategy12:00 Brand vs p