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CRO Is Broken: Alex McEachern of Intelligems on Growth Testing

Honest Ecommerce · with Alex McEachern · August 27, 2026 · 26 min

Summary

This episode challenges the traditional definition of Conversion Rate Optimization (CRO), arguing it's too narrowly focused on "purchase conversions" and fails to capture broader business growth. Alex McEachern of Intelligems and the host discuss renaming CRO to "Growth Testing" or a similar term to reflect its true purpose: optimizing for profitable business growth across all key metrics, not just sales. They emphasize that true optimization involves understanding trade-offs between different KPIs like AOV, profit, and conversion rate, and aligning these with the ultimate goal of the business.

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Themes

conversion & croanalytics & attributiondtc strategyfounder & leadership

Topics covered

conversion rate optimization definitionprofitable growtha/b testing trade-offsoptimizing for profit vs. conversion rategrowth testingecommerce kpis

Episode description

Alex McEachern is Head of Marketing at Intelligems, where he helps ecommerce brands unlock profitable growth through pricing and retention strategies. With a background spanning product marketing, product management, and brand development, Alex has led cross-functional teams and go-to-market efforts at high-growth companies.He is acclaimed for building strategic narratives, scaling brand visibility, and launching initiatives that align product experience with customer value. A graduate of Wilfrid Laurier University with a BBA in Marketing, Alex brings analytical depth and creative energy to the intersection of growth, user experience, and commerce. His work is informed by a passion for behavioral psychology, practical experimentation, and a belief that great brands earn trust over time, not just clicks.In This Conversation We Discuss:[00:00] Introduction[02:20] Disclosure on the Intelligems partnership[04:05] Mistranslating conversion rate optimization[07:50] Why CRO undersells what the work is[10:15] Different stakeholders, different trade-offs[12:00] CRO specialist vs Chief Revenue Officer mix-up[13:18] Callouts[13:28] Statistical significance and informed decisions[18:30] The truth about minor test tweaks[21:15] Where AI actually helps experimentation[25:50] Coining the term growth experimentation[28:10] AI in the wrong hands is dangerousResources:Subscribe to Honest Ecommerce on YoutubeA/B Test Prices & Offers for Ecommerce intelligems.io/ Follow Alex McEachern <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://linkedin.com/in/alexmceachern" tar

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Frequently asked about this episode

What does this episode say about conversion & cro?
Question the narrow focus of "CRO" beyond just purchase conversions; consider optimizing for broader business growth and profit.
What does this episode say about analytics & attribution?
Understand that optimizing one metric (e.g., conversion rate) might negatively impact another (e.g., AOV or profit); identify acceptable trade-offs based on overall business goals.
What does this episode say about dtc strategy?
Align your optimization efforts with the ultimate goal of profitable growth, not just vanity metrics like high conversion rates at any cost.
What does this episode say about founder & leadership?
Before starting optimization, define what success truly means for your business beyond just "conversions" – consider profit, AOV, and other key financial indicators.
What does this episode say about conversion & cro?
Recognize that "conversion" in its original sense means any desired user action, and modern optimization should reflect this broader scope.

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