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The CMO is a dying role, says Digitas' Amy Lanzi

Decoder with Nilay Patel · with Amy Lanzi · July 2, 2026 · 56 min

Summary

Amy Lanzi, CEO of Digitas North America, argues that the traditional CMO role is dying due to the rapid evolution of AI and the creator economy. This episode dives into how brands and agencies must adapt their marketing strategies, organizational structures, and budget allocations to thrive in this new landscape, focusing on integrated solutions and specialized, agile leadership.

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Themes

ai & automationinfluencer & creatorbrand & contentfounder & leadership

Topics covered

future of cmo roleai in marketingcreator economy dynamicsbrand attention strategiesagency evolutionmarketing budget allocationsocial media algorithmsdata-driven marketing

Episode description

We’ve got a special Decoder today. I had the chance to talk with Amy Lanzi, the CEO of Digitas North America, in front of a live audience at the Uber villa at the Cannes Lions advertising festival in the south of France. There’s a lot in this one on AI, the creator economy, and the future of marketing – like I said, Amy is as sharp as they come, and I really enjoy talking to her about how the money really works. Links: The Influencer Cliff | Carmen Vicente (TikTok) The Wrong Promises | Publicis Groupe (YouTube) You can just tell the Instagram algorithm what you want now | The Verge How brands and creators are fighting for your attention and money | Decoder (2025) How influencers are changing advertising, with Digitas’ Amy Lanzi | Decoder (2024) Subscribe to The Verge to access the ad-free version of Decoder! Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Decoder is produced by Kate Cox and Nick Statt and edited by Ursa Wright. Our editorial director is Kevin McShane. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Frequently asked about this episode

What does this episode say about ai & automation?
The traditional CMO role is becoming obsolete due to the pace of technological change; marketing leadership needs to evolve towards more specialized and agile roles.
What does this episode say about influencer & creator?
AI is not just an optimization tool but a transformative force automating many traditional marketing functions, requiring new strategic oversight and skill sets within marketing teams.
What does this episode say about brand & content?
The creator economy decentralizes influence, making individual creators powerful media channels. Brands must understand community building, authenticity, and engagement to effectively leverage this ecosystem.
What does this episode say about founder & leadership?
Effective marketing in a content-saturated era demands constant adaptation to platforms like TikTok and evolving algorithms, moving beyond broad media buys to nuanced engagement strategies.
What does this episode say about ai & automation?
Agencies are evolving to provide integrated solutions for AI implementation, creator partnerships, and data-driven strategies, becoming essential partners for brands navigating the complex modern marketing landscape.

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