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The case for breaking up Google has never been stronger

Decoder with Nilay Patel · with Jonathan Kanter · April 24, 2025 · 68 min

Summary

This episode features Jonathan Kanter, the architect of the DOJ's antitrust cases against Google, discussing the increasing likelihood of Google's breakup. He explains the strategies behind these cases, focusing on Google's search and ad tech monopolies. This is a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of fair competition in the digital advertising and search landscape.

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antitrust enforcementgoogle monopolyad tech regulationsearch engine marketdepartment of justicebig tech regulation

Episode description

Today we’re talking about the very real possibility that Google might be broken up by the United States government. And to do that, I’m talking to Jonathan Kanter, the former assistant attorney general for antitrust under the Biden administration. Kanter left the DOJ after Trump was elected, but he was the architect of the major antitrust cases the Trump administration continues to pursue against Google. That means he’s much more free to share his thoughts on what it took to build and win both of these cases and what should happen next. Links: Google loses ad tech monopoly case | Verge Google is in more danger than ever of being broken up | Verge OpenAI tells judge it would buy Chrome from Google | Verge The high stakes of Google’s monopoly trial | Verge DOJ says Google must sell Chrome to crack open search monopoly | Verge Google makes history with rapid-fire antitrust losses | NYT Read the antitrust ruling against Google | NYT Google ad monopoly ruling's surprise winner: OpenAI | Axios DOJ antitrust chief is ‘overjoyed’ after Google monopoly verdict | Decoder DOJ’s Kanter says the antitrust fight against Big Tech is just beginning | Decoder Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What does this episode say about finance & fundraising?
The U.S. government is actively pursuing antitrust cases against Google, specifically targeting its monopolies in search and ad technology.
What does this episode say about founder & leadership?
Jonathan Kanter, former Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust, was a key architect of the DOJ's strategy against Google.
What does this episode say about finance & fundraising?
The conversation highlights the potential for Google to be broken up, with specific business segments like Chrome and ad tech being considered for divestiture.
What does this episode say about finance & fundraising?
Antitrust enforcement is expanding beyond just consumer welfare to address broader issues of market dominance and competition.
What does this episode say about finance & fundraising?
The episode touches on the potential impact of a Google breakup on innovation, competition, and the digital advertising ecosystem.

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