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Studying online bad behavior was hard. It's going to get harder in Trump 2.0

Decoder with Nilay Patel · with Renee DiResta · January 6, 2025 · 57 min

Summary

This episode, originally from Peter Kafka's "Channels" podcast, features disinformation researcher Renee DiResta discussing the escalating difficulty of studying online bad behavior. The conversation highlights how evolving platform moderation policies and political shifts are creating a more challenging environment for researchers. Listen for insights on the pressures facing disinformation watchdogs and the uncertain future of research centers vital for understanding online speech.

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online moderation policiesdisinformation research challengespolitical pressure on researchersplatform content policiespeer-to-peer misinformationgovernment and social media platforms relationship

Episode description

Hello, Nilay here. We’re still on winter break; we’ll be back with brand-new Decoder interviews next week, and with our Thursday shows later this month. I’m excited for what we’ve got in the pipeline. I think you’re going to love it. For today, though, we’re sharing an episode of Peter Kafka’s new show Channels – he’s talking to disinformation researcher Renee DiResta about what’s going on with speech online in an era where platforms seem less inclined to moderate than ever. Peter’s an old friend and Renee is an expert on all this — there’s a lot of core Decoder themes in this one. Enjoy, and we’ll be back in a bit. Links: Channels with Peter Kafka | Apple Podcasts The Stanford Internet Observatory is being dismantled | Platformer A major disinformation research center’s future looks uncertain | The Verge Supreme Court to hear case on how government talks to social platforms | The Verge GOP targets researchers who study disinformation ahead of 2024 Election | NYT She warned of ‘peer-to-peer misinformation.’ Congress listened | NYT Disinformation watchdogs are under pressure. This group refuses to stop | NYT Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Callie Wright. Our supervising producer is Liam James. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What's takeaway #1 from this episode?
Platforms are becoming less inclined to moderate content, shifting the burden of identifying and combating misinformation. Online operators need to understand how this might impact their brand image and customer trust if platforms become breeding grounds for negative sentiment.
What's takeaway #2 from this episode?
Disinformation researchers are facing increased political pressure and scrutiny, leading to funding challenges and potential legislative action against their work. Brands should be aware of this landscape as it can impact the reliability and availability of data on online sentiment and trends.
What's takeaway #3 from this episode?
The spread of "peer-to-peer misinformation" is making harmful narratives harder to track and debunk. Businesses must develop robust strategies for monitoring and responding to organic, distributed misinformation that could target their brand or products.
What's takeaway #4 from this episode?
The relationship between government and social media platforms is at a critical juncture, impacting platform incentives for content moderation. This evolving dynamic will influence the online environment where brands operate and advertise.
What's takeaway #5 from this episode?
The discussion around the potential dismantling of institutions like the Stanford Internet Observatory underscores the vulnerability of independent research into online behavior, which could reduce objective data and insights for understanding the digital landscape.

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