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Recode Decode: SEC Commissioner Robert Jackson

Decoder with Nilay Patel · with Robert Jackson · November 15, 2019 · 54 min

Summary

This episode explains the intricacies of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and delves into the contentious issue of perpetual dual-class stock structures. It highlights how these structures, prevalent in companies like WeWork, Facebook, and Google, concentrate power with founders and early investors, potentially at the expense of ordinary shareholders. The discussion also covers proposed SEC rule changes that could further undermine shareholder rights and the reluctance of major stock exchanges to address these governance challenges.

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founder & leadershipfinance & fundraising

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securities regulationcorporate governanceshareholder rightsdual-class stockactivist investorssec rule-making

Episode description

Robert Jackson, one of the five commissioners on the Securities and Exchange Commission, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how the SEC works and the problem with perpetual dual-class stock at companies like WeWork, Facebook, and Google. Jackson also explains why he opposes two proposed rule changes that would make it harder for activists to challenge a CEO's power, why the NYSE and Nasdaq are not willing to be part of the solution, and how new legislation could fix the dual class dilemma. Plus: Why Jackson is not happy that the SEC settled with Tesla CEO Elon Musk. Read a full transcript of this interview here. Featuring: Robert Jackson, commissioner, US Securities and Exchange Commission Hosts: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: Subscribe for free to Reset, Recode's new podcast that explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What does this episode say about founder & leadership?
Understand the implications of perpetual dual-class stock: Learn how these structures allow founders to maintain control despite diminishing economic stakes, and the potential negative impacts on market health and investor confidence.
What does this episode say about finance & fundraising?
Recognize the challenges to shareholder activism: Identify how proposed SEC rule changes could hinder activist investors' ability to hold corporate leadership accountable and the broader implications for corporate responsibility.
What does this episode say about founder & leadership?
Be aware of the stock exchanges' role: Note the reluctance of NYSE and Nasdaq to actively solve governance issues, potentially due to vested interests in maintaining the status quo.
What does this episode say about founder & leadership?
Consider legislative solutions for corporate control: Appreciate that new legislation might be necessary to fundamentally alter the landscape of corporate control and address the 'dual-class dilemma' more effectively than regulatory adjustments.
What does this episode say about founder & leadership?
Gain insight into SEC enforcement: Understand the internal debates and pressures within the SEC through the discussion of the controversial settlement with Tesla CEO Elon Musk.

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