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Recode Decode: General Michael Hayden on Donald Trump’s ‘assault on intelligence’

Decoder with Nilay Patel · with General Michael Hayden · May 28, 2018 · 62 min

Summary

This episode features former NSA and CIA Director General Michael Hayden discussing the challenges facing U.S. intelligence in an era of enhanced digital encryption and the Trump administration's 'post-truth' approach. Hayden offers insights into advising a skeptical president, protecting intelligence officers, and the role of tech companies in combating misinformation, providing a critical perspective on national security in a rapidly changing information landscape.

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end of electronic surveillancedigital encryption impact on intelligencetrump administration and "post-truth" politicsrole of facebook in misinformationprotecting intelligence officersadvising skeptical leaders

Episode description

Retired U.S. Air Force General Michael Hayden talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his new book, “The Assault on Intelligence: American National Security in the Age of Lies.” Hayden, who directed the NSA under President Clinton and the CIA under President George W. Bush, says the “golden age of electronic surveillance” is ending, as both regular Americans and foreign enemies are getting smarter about digital encryption. But as the intelligence community changes its tactics, the Trump administration has embraced the “post-truth” societal trend that is emerging around the world. Hayden explains how he would attempt to give Trump the best advice, what he would recommend for America’s still-active spies, and why the president’s behavior is so befuddling. Plus: How to prevent leaks, and what Facebook can do to be part of the solution. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What's takeaway #1 from this episode?
The 'golden age of electronic surveillance' is ending due to increased digital encryption and public awareness, forcing intelligence agencies to adapt their tactics.
What's takeaway #2 from this episode?
The "post-truth" political environment, exacerbated by the Trump administration, significantly impacts national security by undermining intelligence findings and creating a challenging operational environment for intelligence officers.
What's takeaway #3 from this episode?
Social media platforms like Facebook have a critical role in addressing misinformation to safeguard national security and public discourse, implying a shared responsibility with intelligence agencies.
What's takeaway #4 from this episode?
Protecting intelligence officers involves addressing personal and professional pressures in a climate where intelligence work is often questioned or dismissed.
What's takeaway #5 from this episode?
Effective intelligence advice to a skeptical administration requires strategic communication and focusing on objective data, even when faced with resistance.

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