The rise of AI agents creates a new, massive market for identity and access management beyond human users.
Existing infrastructure software, especially in cybersecurity, is highly resilient to
CEOs must balance healthy paranoia about disruption with capitalizing on new opportunities, especially in rapidly evolving tech landscapes.
Successful companies need to significantly increase their capacity for change and experimentation (e.g., shifting from 20% to 60% change quotient) to adapt to new technological shifts.
Be wary of hype; many claims about AI usage in code development are sales-driven rather than factual.
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ai & automationfounder & leadershipfinance & fundraising
My guest today is Okta CEO Todd McKinnon. Okta is a platform that big companies use to manage security and identity across all the many apps and platforms their employees use. Most of us run into it as login management at work. SaaS companies like Okta are under a lot of pressure in the age of AI, which Todd even said on an earnings call he's "paranoid" about. But you'll also hear Todd say that for Okta specifically, there's also a world of opportunity as the very concept of a digital "identity" has to expand into things that aren't really people. Links: CEO ‘paranoid’ as vibe coders stir SaaSpocalypse fears | The Register $300B evaporated. The SaaSpocalypse has begun | Forbes How AI assistants are moving the security goalposts | Krebs on Security What everyone’s missing about AI and development | CRN Agents run amok: Identity lessons from Moltbook’s experiment | Okta Breakup of IBM is Antitrust goal (1972) | New York Times Subscribe to The Verge to access the ad-free version of Decoder! Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Decoder is produced by Kate Cox and Nick Statt and edited by Ursa Wright. Our editorial director is Kevin McShane. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.
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The rise of AI agents creates a new, massive market for identity and access management beyond human users.
What does this episode say about founder & leadership?
Existing infrastructure software, especially in cybersecurity, is highly resilient to
What does this episode say about finance & fundraising?
CEOs must balance healthy paranoia about disruption with capitalizing on new opportunities, especially in rapidly evolving tech landscapes.
What does this episode say about ai & automation?
Successful companies need to significantly increase their capacity for change and experimentation (e.g., shifting from 20% to 60% change quotient) to adapt to new technological shifts.
What does this episode say about ai & automation?
Be wary of hype; many claims about AI usage in code development are sales-driven rather than factual.
