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NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy

Decoder with Nilay Patel · with A.G. Sulzberger · May 5, 2025 · 66 min

Summary

This episode offers an insightful look into the New York Times' strategy for navigating the turbulent waters of modern journalism, focusing on digital subscriptions, the legal battles with AI giants like OpenAI, and adapting to a challenging economic and political landscape. Ecommerce operators can draw parallels in brand building, customer retention through subscription models, and protecting intellectual property in a rapidly evolving digital ecosystem.

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finance & fundraisingbrand & contentfounder & leadershipai & automation

Topics covered

digital subscription strategyai and copyright lawmedia economicsintellectual property protectionnews business modelsbrand integrity

Episode description

Hey everyone, it’s Nilay. We’re off today, but we’ll be back Thursday, so stay tuned. In the meantime, we have an excellent episode from Business Insider Chief Correspondent Peter Kafka, who hosts the media podcast Channels. In this episode, Peter sat down with one of the biggest names in journalism: New York Times publisher AG Sulzberger. It’s a fascinating conversation that covers some of the most pressing issues facing journalism and the news business today. We think you’ll like it. Links: NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI and the economy | Channels New York Times Reports 350,000 Additional Digital Subscribers | NYT IGN and CNET owner Ziff Davis sues OpenAI | Verge The New York Times is suing OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement | Verge Dow Jones CEO Almar Latour on AI, press freedom, and the future of news | Decoder Platforms need the news — but they’re killing it | Decoder Why The Atlantic signed a deal with OpenAI | Decoder Platformer’s Casey Newton on surviving the great media collapse | Decoder Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Frequently asked about this episode

What does this episode say about finance & fundraising?
Digital subscription models are crucial for media companies, demonstrating the power of recurring revenue and direct customer relationships.
What does this episode say about brand & content?
Protecting intellectual property from AI training is a pressing concern across industries; businesses should assess their legal avenues and consider strategic partnerships carefully.
What does this episode say about founder & leadership?
Brand integrity and a clear value proposition are vital in a competitive online environment, especially when combating misinformation or commoditization.
What does this episode say about ai & automation?
Diversifying revenue streams beyond traditional advertising, including product diversification, is key to financial resilience.
What does this episode say about finance & fundraising?
Invest in high-quality, differentiated content or products that AI cannot easily replicate to maintain competitive advantage.

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