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How She Used B2B Tactics to Scale a DTC Wine Brand - The Shopify Growth Show (#13)

The Shopify Growth Show · July 29, 2025 · 46 min

Summary

This episode uncovers why even good traffic often fails to convert for ecommerce brands. It highlights that the problem isn't always traffic quality, but rather an underdeveloped offer, confusing messaging, weak product pages, or a lack of trust and mobile optimization. Ecommerce operators will learn to identify and fix these conversion bottlenecks to maximize their existing traffic and drive higher sales.

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conversion & crodtc strategyshopify & ecommerce platforms

Topics covered

conversion rate optimizationlanding page optimizationoffer clarityproduct page best practicesmobile conversioncustomer trustpost-click experienceecommerce ux

Episode description

They didn’t just launch a wine brand - they created a whole new category. In this episode, Kendra Kawala shares how Maker Wines went from cold outreach to category leader.Jim talks with Kendra Kawala, co-founder of Maker Wines, about how she turned B2B sales grit into DTC scale. From walking into wine shops cold to managing complex supply chains with 15 wineries, Kendra reveals the realities of launching a new product category — and why going B2B-first gave them an edge most DTC brands miss.TOPICS DISCUSSED IN TODAY’S EPISODEWhy Maker Wines isn’t your typical DTC brandThe early grind of B2B-style salesManaging logistics across 15 partner wineriesWhat business school got right and wrongChoosing the right co-founder for scaleOrder economics and conviction at launchApplying B2B thinking to consumer marketingIf you’re launching something new — or want to scale smart — this is the episode you’ll come back to twice.Resources:https://www.makerwine.com/Jim Huffman websiteJim's TwitterGrowthHitThe Growth Marketer's PlaybookThe Shopify Growth School Additional episodes you might enjoy:Startup Ideas by Paul Graham (#45)Nathan Barry: How to Bootstrap a Company to $30M in a Crowded Market (#41)<a

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Frequently asked about this episode

What does this episode say about conversion & cro?
Prioritize strong offer clarity on landing pages to immediately communicate value and differentiate your product, preventing visitors from needing to
What does this episode say about dtc strategy?
Overhaul product pages to reduce buyer effort by clearly presenting benefits, strong visuals, social proof (reviews), and transparent shipping/return policies. Never leave buyers to interpret value for themselves.
What does this episode say about shopify & ecommerce platforms?
Build trust proactively by ensuring your site feels complete, transparent, and addresses common buyer hesitations regarding legitimacy, product matching promises, and post-purchase support.
What does this episode say about conversion & cro?
Optimize your mobile experience ruthlessly; small friction points on mobile disproportionately kill conversion. Ensure buttons, details, images, and checkout processes are seamless on smaller screens.
What does this episode say about conversion & cro?
View conversion as a 'systems issue' rather than chasing a single silver bullet. Address the cumulative effect of decent traffic, okay offers, fine pages, acceptable trust, and working checkout that together still underperform.

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